The Save Jersey Blog: N.J. Democrats Should Think Twice Before Passing Lame Duck Gay Marriage Bill
N.J. Democrats Should Think Twice Before Passing Lame Duck Gay Marriage Bill
PRESS RELEASE, Trenton -- Governor Jon Corzine, who campaigned in
support of gay marriage and named the sponsor of the gay marriage bill as his
running mate, lost re-election today in part because of poor performance in
traditionally Democratic urban centers. Experts say that the African-American
and Hispanic base on which Democrats can usually rely does not support the
Democratic position on redefining marriage, which may have made the difference
in this election.
"Gov. Corzine said gay marriage was 'on
the ballot' with him in New
Jersey this year. Today, New Jersey voted 'No' on both of them," said
Len Deo, President of the New Jersey Family Policy Council. Values Voters
rejected this issue outright! Values always matter and this time they were
pivotal in the outcome of this election.
Gov. Corzine linked gay marriage to his
candidacy in June at the Gay Pride Rally in Asbury Park
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wj-vhscBGj0). The Governor was outspoken
throughout the campaign about redefining marriage to apply to same-sex couples,
appearing before Garden State Equality's 2009 Legends Dinner in March, telling a
union conference in September that he'd sign a gay marriage bill "this year,"
and emphatically vowing to support gay marriage in two televised debates. A
$225,000 radio ad campaign by the National Organization for Marriage, targeted
toward African American voters, highlighted the Governor's advocacy for gay
marriage. (http://www.nationformarriage.org/site/apps/nlnet/content2.aspx?c=omL2KeN0LzH&b=5075189&ct=7569165)
"The Governor did not find a welcoming
reception for his marriage definition message in urban New Jersey," said Deo.
"Polls show that minority voters oppose changing marriage--even polls done by
groups in favor of gay marriage."
An April 23, 2009 Quinnipiac University
Poll found that, given the choice between recognizing same-sex couples as
"married" or not, 62% of black voters in New Jersey think the relationships
should not be called "marriages". Forty-two percent of them even disagree with
legally recognizing such relationships as civil unions. (Questions 28-29,
www.quinnipiac.edu/x1299.xml?ReleaseID=1289)
Patrick J. Egan, an assistant professor of
politics at New
YorkUniversity who has studied black voting
patterns on same-sex marriage, said black voters consistently polled much lower
than white voters on approval for same-sex marriage, about 16 percentage points.
(http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/21/us/politics/21gay.html)
The Governor's continued lobbying for gay
marriage appears to have greatly dampened the enthusiasm and turn-out for him
today. Polls throughout the campaign showed the Governor underperforming by a
large amount among minority voters, including a poll released November 1 by
Public Policy Polling, a Democratic firm. That poll showed Corzine receiving the
support of only 76% of black voters and just 51% of Hispanic voters. Democrats
can usually count on support from those groups of more than 90% and more than
60%, respectively. (http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/PPP_Release_NJ_1101513.pdf and
The Corzine campaign was relying heavily
on large turn-out in Newark, Camden, Paterson, and other cities with a majority
population of minorities. President Obama even visited New
Jersey three times to encourage the urban base to come out, stumping
in Newark and Camden on November 1. But in the lead-up to
Election day, urban leaders like State Senator Ron Rice and Paterson Councilman
Andre Sayegh and Council President Jeffrey Jones publicly
voiced concerns about lackluster urban support. (http://www.politickernj.com/max/34665/rice-leads-late-west-ward-mobilization-corzine)
Council President Jones even
said, "I think we have our work cut out for us. A lot of people know it's
Election Day, and people are starting to talk about it, but most of the people I
talk to are pretty reserved about what they're going to do. I can't put my
finger on it, because it's not voter apathy. People know what they're going to
do. They're just not sharing their position." (http://www.politickernj.com/max/34724/most-paterson-council-members-agree-ground-game-there-corzine-one-has-his-doubts)
"Today New Jerseyans,
especially those in urban families, made their position clear. They have said
'No' to Jon Corzine and Loretta Weinberg's attempt to change the social meaning
of marriage," noted Rev. Dr. Gloria Harris of Beth El International Church,
Newark, NJ, a member of the NJ Clergy Advisory
Council. "We have heard from urban leaders across the state
about how the Governor's promises of gay marriage led them to stay home or even
change their vote," concluded Dr. Harris.
"New Jersey Legislators should take
note of this election," stated, Len Deo "New Jersey citizens have no problem with
individuals living their lives they way they want, but voters draw the line at
the government changing the meaning of marriage for everyone else,” concluded
Deo.
Wednesday, November 11, 2009 9:59 AM
Curt wrote:
"Let's have an honest debate. Trenton shouldn't tell anyone how to live their lives via legislative fiat."
Hi Matt, I would love to debate you on this. How is legalizing gay marriage telling you how to your live your life? Its not forcing you to have a gay marriage. Reply to this
http://www.khabrein.info/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=28859&Itemid=57 TOMMY Do not approve same sex marria 2009-11-08 19:00:15 I wonder how can people especially the government approve such an immoral acts. g*y marriage should all be executed and slaughter for all I care. It's totally disgust me to even hear about this and luckily there's a Governor that opposes and in my eyes he's the arm of the lord Reply to this
"Because there are some crazies out there, we should deny all voters the right to weigh-in on a proposed, major social change within our American society?"
That couldn't possibly be what you meant... right? Reply to this
I also want to address the fact that this is an issue that means a great deal to gay people. For gay people this is more than a major social change, its determining how they are able to live their lives! For a smaller group of people, thats too big of a deal to be put to a vote where it doesn't affect the majority. The win in Maine was a very narrow one, but how much of the narrow win came from people like Tommy?
Let me ask you a fair question. Are there any gay people who are a part of your life? Reply to this
Wednesday, April 21, 2010 6:05 PM
Lana33Bowers wrote:
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i agree
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There is no telling what Corzine might try to do in a lame duck session.
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"Let's have an honest debate. Trenton shouldn't tell anyone how to live their lives via legislative fiat."
Hi Matt, I would love to debate you on this. How is legalizing gay marriage telling you how to your live your life? Its not forcing you to have a gay marriage.
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I'll start. The problem is that when you put it to a vote, there are still many people like this.
http://www.khabrein.info/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=28859&Itemid=57
TOMMY Do not approve same sex marria 2009-11-08 19:00:15
I wonder how can people especially the government approve such an immoral acts. g*y marriage should all be executed and slaughter for all I care. It's totally disgust me to even hear about this and luckily there's a Governor that opposes and in my eyes he's the arm of the lord
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So let me see if I can understand you, Curt:
"Because there are some crazies out there, we should deny all voters the right to weigh-in on a proposed, major social change within our American society?"
That couldn't possibly be what you meant... right?
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Hi Matt,
Being that this major social change doesn't affect the majority of the society, thats exactly what I mean.
So how is Trenton telling you how to live your life?
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Matt,
I also want to address the fact that this is an issue that means a great deal to gay people. For gay people this is more than a major social change, its determining how they are able to live their lives! For a smaller group of people, thats too big of a deal to be put to a vote where it doesn't affect the majority. The win in Maine was a very narrow one, but how much of the narrow win came from people like Tommy?
Let me ask you a fair question. Are there any gay people who are a part of your life?
Reply to this
When you are in a not good position and have got no money to get out from that point, you will have to take the personal loans. Because it should help you definitely. I get sba loan every year and feel great because of this.
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